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Comment by Airon[Marion Wilkins on May 30, 2012 at 8:34pm

  People have notlearned too be tru to their own minds,when you think,if it feels right to you react,do.Early in my life I set standards,,ones that were just mine,always have followed them regard less. Remarkable things are happening right now,Im seeing into another worlds,people,I first called them Angels,but now ,not sure. They are real and walk beside others. Remembering always have be a seer,psychic,no fear excist,just acceptance.Feeling great body change too Heaven is just another dimension to which we travel in death,not too be feared.  In faith Friends

Comment by Eugene OV member Admin on May 28, 2012 at 9:08pm

Susan you said a mouthful LOL I will try to adress them all.

Wow this thread is moving along.

We create everything in one way or another but for the sake of clarity in our discussions it would also be best to define from what part of our consciousness we lead the discussion.

Contradiction

It is often noted that the spiritual reality is like the physical reality turned upside down. It is so paradoxical that the very thing one might expect NOT to work is the very thing that works. Gandhi for example overthrew the British government in his country by not doing anything. In another consciousness a good army might have done it too, but with a lot of bloodshed.

Our conversations come from different consciousness and then it does contradict. The reality of a creator is entirely different from that of a victim.

Pre-Destiny.

There is no time. It is another illusion. So when you are making a choice you are making it in all time. Before you were born and now all at the same time. So you are free to make whatever choice you like because it IS creating in the NOW. How many ascended masters already said that the future is not as disasterous as it used to be, because we are waking up spiritually and affecting it.

We can "miraculously" create anything we choose any time. The problem is that we look at what was and what is and affirm that as our reality and thus re-create it. Right now the persistence of our problems is due to our re-creating them.

For people who do not get that we can refer to Gregg Braden's "Language of the divine Matrix" Without judgment or prejudice, decide what you want, and then decide how it will make you feel. Then feel it.

In contrast if you decide what is and what was with the judgment preference and bad feelings you have about it then you simply recreate more of those things that bring the bad feelings. Change can still happen but very painful and very slowly.

Death is not an ultimate neither is age. It is a creation or a collective belief if you want, that we create. We can live as long as we like and leave when we had enough. A body is a creation of it's soul/spirit and can remain as long as it is kept in creation.

But work  on every level. Follow your inclination. Get a picket and fall in line or sign the petition or meditate or pray or imagine the new feeling. Creation and change happens on all levels and we need not neglect any one level.

This world is an illusion but it is OUR illusion and its time we take responsibility for it and change it to our liking. We came here to ENJOY it. Now some actually enjoy fighting too believe it or not.Now that we have enough of that we can just create a new set where fighting simply does not exist.

Comment by susan faccone on May 28, 2012 at 2:46pm

I suppose Victoria that I believe that ascension must be when you die as I have not seen any full solid bodies just up and fly into the sky. Some people believe you can ascend into the heavens before they die, but I personally have not experienced it. But then there are a lot of things I refuse to believe. I just refused to follow blindly things that people say or claim. For me, I must see it, feel it, or it has to feel right to me, no matter what.

Comment by ANGEL IRENE CRIM on May 28, 2012 at 9:43am

YES  Victoria  Let"s just focus       HASN'T  THAT DONE WONDERS  THUS FAR   GOTTA LOVE  IT

Comment by ANGEL IRENE CRIM on May 28, 2012 at 9:40am

 I'm like my friend Jennifer that jusr left. She SAID  " i haven't created anything because I learn all I

know about the ELITE   and their doings from you ANGEL     NOW  EVEN A BEGINNER KNOWS BETTER THAN US HUH????????????    AS MADEA SAYS   HELL  TO  THE  NO"" I  ANGEL HAVEN"T CREATED NONE OF THIS CRAP  IF THE REST OF YOU THINK YOU HAVE DEAL WITH IT   I WAS NEVER THAT STUPID  I JUST READ AND LISTENED TO EVERYONE"S BULL SHIT ABOUT IT     " THANK YOU UNIVESE"" FROM ANGEL CRIM""" IT'S NOT GOING TO END UNTILL WE THE PEOPLE OVER THROW THE GOVERNMENT NO MATTER WHO TALKS TO WHO OR WHAT OR WHERE     THJAT"S  IT  IN A NUT SHELL  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by ANGEL IRENE CRIM on May 28, 2012 at 9:26am

 OH   AND P.S. To those in USA   HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY      CELEBTATE THE LIVES THAR WERE LOST TO IGNORANCE       ME !!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S JUST NOT IN ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by ANGEL IRENE CRIM on May 28, 2012 at 9:23am

 Victoria I LOVE YPU GIRL!!!! BUT     Susan put the whole 9 yards out there for me. Helll I JUST NOW WOKE UP THANK YOU 1000 TIMES SUSAN. HOWEVER I"LL KEEP  A CKECK ON THE REST OF YOU OVER AND OUT   LOVE YPU ALL        LOVE ANGEL CRIM

Comment by Victoria J. Scamehorn on May 28, 2012 at 7:11am

Susan, may I ask why you believe we have to die to Ascend? I am no professional

on the topic, but believe we do NOT have to die. But you are right...a first step

towards Mastership is giving up fear, even about the death of the body and I agree

we are not creators of all the evils of this world....but if we put our heads in the sand

so to speak and do nothing... then we are giving our power to the negative factions.

Comment by susan faccone on May 28, 2012 at 6:45am

I have to ask Eugene, if the world is 100% our creation, then it was us who created the problem in the first place, and now we need to do.....??? Change our perception? Everything is an illusion, an illusion we create? Since we create everything. There are things that happen in this world that happen, simply happen. Things we do not create, because as an enlightened person I would not create it. And what of the arguement of everything being planned before we are born? Which would mean we create nothing because all has been planned. I truely believe we are all trading one religion for a more new age religion, and I say this because the things spoken of are as contradicting as the Bible and The Coran, and what ever other beliefs are out there. If our objective is to ascend, which is basicly to die and go to a higher realm, what are we all afraid of? Why get upset over anything...? No amount of complaining or fighting or anything else is going to offset the fact that death is our ultimate fate. So, why not just enough what life we have and not waste it on things that may or may not be happening, especially since we are simple people with simple lives, who actually can't change anything when it comes to the handfull of those who run everything......just my thoughts.

Comment by Victoria J. Scamehorn on May 28, 2012 at 6:34am

Angel Irene, lets not dwell on how we were....let us focus on the power of WHO WE

ARE RIGHT NOW. You just have to believe you can make a difference. If enough

people can believe, we can change this world for the better... a little at a time.

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